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Does advice on foreign securities fall under RIA regulations?

If you are providing advise on foreign stocks to Indian investors with a US broker tie up – does RIA registration suffice? Where do you stand in the eyes of SEBI?

This must have been the thought when SEBI RIA – SV Capital (SVC) – wrote to SEBI using the informal guidance route.

SEBI’s reply turned out to be a spanner in the works and, I imagine, must have left the RIA running for cover.

Let’s get a brief background on the company.        

  1. SVC has a contractual agreement with a US company, which has a platform for investors, whether Indian or foreign, to deal in foreign securities.
  2. The dealing in foreign securities happens through a US Stock Broker.
  3. The platform also provides an option to investors to invest in pre-configured basket of foreign securities aka “Stacks” aka model portfolio.
  4. The Stacks will be created based on pre-defined financial or qualitative parameters. SVC will also rebalance the Stacks on quarterly basis.
  5. There will be no involvement or input from any investors in creating or rebalancing the Stacks.
  6. SVC will get a service fee from the US company for creating Stacks. SVC will also get trail commissions on the brokerage charged by the US Stock Broker.

Now SVC wanted to know whether:

  1. Providing Stacks to the US Company constitutes ‘investment advice’ under IA regulations.
  2. Arrangement with the US Stock Broker to facilitate purchase in foreign securities constitutes distribution services.
  3. Can SVC, as a proprietorship firm (i.e. an individual RIA), receive both, fee from US Company and commissions from US Stock Broker.

If you have been in the game, you probably are already feeling a churn in your stomach. Well, let’s check out SEBI’s response.

  1. IA Regulations concern themselves with activities in the nature of providing an investment advice for consideration.
  2. Creating and rebalancing Stacks for a US Company and receiving compensation for the same does not appear to be an activity for providing investment advice.
  3. Hence, the services provided by SVC will not come under the purview of the IA regulations.
  4. SVC cannot provide such services as an IA.

This is the spanner in the works. Somehow, I am not convinced with this.

Is advising on foreign securities an issue?

Now, if you are a SEBI registered investment adviser, you can provide advice on

  • securities and investment products or
  • on an investment portfolio containing securities or investment products.

Though the definition of securities is given in the SEBI Contracts (Regulation) Act, 1956, (SCRA), the definition of investment products is not given in any of the SEBI regulations.

Interestingly, the case here is that of dealing with foreign securities. Let us first see whether foreign securities are covered under the definition of securities.

As per Section 2(h) of the SCRA, “securities” include— shares, scrips, stocks, bonds, debentures, debenture stock or other marketable securities of a like nature in or of any incorporated company or other body corporate.

Body corporate?

As per section 2(11) of the Companies Act, 2013, body corporate includes a company incorporated outside India.

So, concluding:

  1. securities of a company incorporation outside India are included in the definition of “securities”
  2. advice on foreign securities to Indian investors falls under the purview of IA regulations.

SVC is providing model portfolios to the US company, which in turn will also be used by Indian investors. Advice on an investment portfolio containing securities is included in the definition of “investment advice” under IA regulations.

So, providing Stacks containing foreign securities does come under the definition of investment advice.

Clear so far?

Then why did SEBI’s guidance note say that an RIA cannot do this activity. Here’s where the waters become muddy.

SVC is not providing advice directly to the investors but through the US company. Unfortunately, indirect advice is not included in the IA regulations.

IA regulations also state that an investment adviser should receive fees from the client only. An IA cannot receive any consideration by way of remuneration or compensation or in any other form from any person other than the client being advised.

In this case, SVC is receiving the fees from the US company and not directly from the investors.

Since SVC is not providing advice directly to investors and not getting fees directly from them, SEBI seems to have taken a stand that this activity does not come under IA regulations.

SEBI also clearly mentioned that in the capacity of RIA, SVC cannot do this activity.

Would the case be different if SVC would have received fees directly from the investor? In my view, yes it would be. Because then SVC will then know who is taking its advice. And since Indian investors will also be taking the advice, the activity will fall under IA regulations and SVC will have to comply with the regulations. Also there is no exemption to providing investment advice to NRIs or Persons of Indian Origin.

In that case, it also means that if SVC wants to provide implementation service, it will have to forgo the commissions from the US Stock Broker to comply with client level segregation requirements.

The big question:

Assuming SVC was not registered with SEBI in any capacity, would SEBI have allowed such kind of activity?

Does this mean that SVC can continue the activity by surrendering the license?

SEBI has given a disclaimer at the end that the response by SEBI is only with respect to the clarification sought with respect to the IA regulations and does not affect the applicability of any other law and requirements of any other SEBI regulations.

If not RIA, then under the given set of various SEBI regulations, which one applies?

Looks like the informal guidance has left a lot of questions unanswered.

9 thoughts on “Does advice on foreign securities fall under RIA regulations?”

  1. Although the definition of securities include companies registered outside of india (body corporate) but they are not traded in a stock exchange in india recognised by the 1956 act of stock exchanges as per the definition given in the RA 2014 regulations. US stocks are traded in NYSE. NYSE is not recognised under the 1956 act as it pertains to only indian exchanges by their definition. So research analyses on foreign companies does not fall under the purview of SEBI.

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  2. Hello, I’m providing IA services where i advise clients to buy/sell US stocks but all my clients are american or european and located outside india . I deny services to indian clients or NRI or Indian origin persons . Does this concern them ?

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    • Hi, referring to exemptions in the IA Regulations, IA regulations do not apply to person who provides investment advice exclusively to clients based out of India. The clients should not include Non-Resident Indians or Persons of Indian Origin.

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  3. Hi,
    If there is a website through which clients can input their financial details and goals and if the system auto generates a plan for them without any dedicated or physical financial advisor then will the founders of the website need to be registered with SEBI under RIA ?

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      • Thank you Kruti. Yes we are looking for a platform which will have robo advisory. One last question though. If we have a LLP then is it mandatory for all partners to be regisered as RIA with SEBI or if there is a provision to register just one partner on behalf of LLP

        Thank you,
        Aditya

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        • No, atleast one partner (who will be the Principal Officer) should fulfill the qualification and certification reuqirements. If all the partners are going to be involved in providing investment advice, then all partners need to.
          Just to clarify, individual partner(s) need not get separately registered with SEBI if the application is for LLP. There will be only one application in the name of LLP and details of the PO will be submitted along with the application.

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  4. Giving advice to a US entity by an Indian entity, on matters related to US stocks do not fall under the jurisdiction of SEBI. It is as simple as providing consultancy services to a foreign entity.

    SEBI cannot stop any Indian entity from giving advise to a foreign entity. just because it is not under its jurisdiction.

    However, if the Indian entity is selling advice, marketing products or distributing/ offering broking services to clients situated in India, then that activity will very much fall under the jurisdiction of SEBI. However, SEBI has made it very clear, that it is not in favor of a situation wherein, any single entity, is giving advice and doing distribution/ broking both.

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    • Yes. So, any business of providing advice to clients in India as well as NRIs comes under SEBI purview irrespective of whether the advice is on Indian stocks or US stocks. The same is mentioned in my blog.

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